Q u o t e:
guild: Domus Fulminata
server: Kilrogg
9 naxx bosses down :)
multiple GMs
$!@% load of field marshals
I look forward to fighting the horde in BG9
--Dagoroth 60 Paladin
This twisted little family called the Horde is going to
tear itself apart when the dying starts.
95% of the horde on this server show up day after day ready to
learn pvp.
All the so-called "good" players slammed
the door in their faces years ago.
If the horde refuse to
train their young...
The only difference I've seen between horde and Alliance on this
server is that the alliance work the PuG circuit scouting new talent
and training up the good ones.
Now they have metric tons of
raiders available.
Looks like the Horde have the same 8
people they did 2 years ago.
Battlegrounds
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- In order to whisper a
player from another server in your battleground you must append
"-Servername" to the end of their name. These whispers will
not show up on your screen, but will show up on theirs.
- You
may only trade conjured items to players from another server
(anything else will give an error message)
- When you join a
battleground, you are automatically added to a raid group. You MAY
NOT leave that group. To speak in this raid, use /bg instead of /ra.
- Leadership of the battleground raid is granted to whomever
has the highest PvP rank when the raid is formed (approximately 1
minute before the battleground starts).
- You may be in a
battleground group and a regular group at once, but the battleground
group will be the one you see in the party frame as well as the raid
tab.
- The mini-battlemap in will reopen automatically if
closed (Possibly a bug?)
Average queue times
Alliance Frostmane: 40m
Alliance
Kil'Jaeden: 15-40m accross the board
Alliance Kilrogg: 20-40
minutes
Alliance Ner'zhul: 1-10m WSG/AB, 5-30m AV
Alliance
Silver Hand: 45m to 2h for WSG and 3.5h+ for AV
Horde Blackrock:
10m WSG/AB, 1h AV
In AB I see three alliance ride up to the Mine flag, all dismount
right onto the flag and start ripping. As we attack them, the ones
who get interupted fight back. The 3rd alliance player actually gets
the rip.
At the Mill I see 5 horde ride up and scatter like
sticks to the wind. After failing to farm kills and riding back to
the mill for about two or three full rezz cycles, someone moves to
the flag. The closest Alliance player always makes it their job to
interupt the rip.
Which team do you think is gonna win?
Four horde enter the flag room. Two minutes later no one has
picked up the flag. The Horde are either...
a) scared
b)
don't want too
c) don't care
d) all of the above
Which
ever answer one chooses the Horde lose. I feel the reason no one
wants to pick up the flag is that the Horde don't trust each other.
They certainly are not going to learn that trust while being
Graveyard camped in BG9.
10-40 people playing solo. We have never been so alone.
There is nothing wrong with the pvp community on the Alliance side
of this server. The things I say about horde side on this server are
hard to say ... even for me. I had to work up the nerve to say them.
I'll give a specific example of the difference between the
Horde and alliance communities as they pvp.
I came from
an Alliance back ground. I reroll horde and level. In the 30's I
queue for my first Horde WSG.
Pop! Instant access. "Holy
cheese wiz! No wait." The horde team is a little disoriented.
It's the first match of the day. Takes about 2 minutes to get a raid
going. 3 Different people get the flag caps. About a 40 min match.
Final Score 2-3 horde.
Second match. "WTH
was that? Did someone just queue us as a group? Never seen that
before." It's a struggle. We have to kill red flag a couple of
times, but the alliance are shut out. We are starting to figure out
who on our team is the runner and who is defense. Still takes about
20 minutes to win.
Final Score 0-3 horde.
Third
match. Queued as group. 10 minute game. We roll the alliance and
hard. One of the horde players ( I chit you not ) says "Alliance
sux." Another one says ( this actually happened ) "They're
a bunch of noobs."
Final Score 0-3 horde.
Ok.
Every team we face, this is probably their first match of the day.
The horde can't seem to remember how poorly we did on our
first match.
Now that we've had 2 warm up matches and gotten
our chit in gear ... sure we are gonna roll the people who are just
waking up.
But by Thrall people, to be insulting!?? To
honestly say stuff like they are "noobs!?" I mean W T H. No
farkin wonder the horde fall apart and cry like babies in the AV. If
they are loosing to "noobs" what does that make them?
On
alliance it was totally different. We never insulted the horde, and
we did Ok considering we never had any warm up matches. Hell the
alliance does damn good if one considers they don't even have a raid
formed until the horde get their first cap.
In conclusion...
The horde are insulting to the alliance and self deluded on a
grand scale.
The horde like to retreat and watch the slower
members of their team get killed for not being cowardly enough.
The
horde, on the whole, still do not know how to rip a flag, fight on a
flag, or mount an offensive.
This dysfunctional little family
called the horde is gonna tear itself apart come BG9.
We've
had 2 months to get Naxx raids up and going on horde side. The Silver
Hand Horde will never grow up, socialize, build a community, and Make
Naxx accessible.
This constitutes the worst of any world.
In
case you skipped all that...
The horde hate their own faction
more than they want to beat the alliance.
Well here Jinrai this might cheer you up.
http://www.branya.com/shard_bag.jpg
A picture of my old alliance character from a year ago.
Q u o t e:
I'm glad you happened to be raid leader 16 times when the Horde won despite your presence.
Tempestmoon,
Now that is a well crafted
sentence.
Q u o t e:
Factions do not win or lose pvp, groups win or lose pvp.
Towel,
Is there more to that or am I supposed to
guess.
I mean the Alliance may understand that, but here on
horde side its the home of sweeping generalizations about the
"alliance." Be it the Gulch or the Basin I hear "pally
this" and "tier 2 that." Not only do the horde refuse
to talent scout and build up their own raiding community, but somehow
they have brain washed themselves that this lack of a raiding
community is the alliance's fault too.
Hey, maybe I can use
that quote Towel to invent a new description.
The Horde
suffer from Factionitis with a side order of victimology.
Factionitis: The ability of the Horde to
simultaneously have nothing to do with each other while blaming the
alliance for the results of their own anti social behavior. Symptoms
are a lack of a raiding community, new talented players never being
discovered, and the dots on a BG map resemble buck shot as opposed to
a single bullet hole. In it's most acute state it can be seen when
the Horde tear limb from limb anyone who points out that blaming the
Alliance is not going to win us any BG's.
Q u o t e:
In it's most acute
state it can be seen when the Horde tear limb from limb anyone who
points out that blaming the Alliance is not going to win us any BG's.
Haknub,
Thanks for the opportunity to quote myself
above.
I knew one of you couldn't resist the urge to ...
"lets just attack Deq and bury our heads in the sand"
Q u o t e:
Or is it just the established guilds/raids which are expected to carry the burden?
No Haknub,
Just you.
I only expect you
alone to carry the burden.
You are hereby required to...
1)
form up 2 Naxxramas raids a week
2) fill out those raids, by
scouting out newbs if you gotta
3) getting everyone attuned to
Naxx
4) maintaining the web site for the raids
5) Doing
perfect record keeping of the DKP system
6) never ever making a
single looting mistake
7) keeping everyone calm and entertained
in ventrillo
Well? Are you done yet?
Q u o t e:
What exactly are you suggesting? I honestly want to hear it.
1) form up 2 Naxxramas raids a week
2) fill out those
raids, by scouting out newbs if you gotta
3) getting everyone
attuned to Naxx
4) maintaining the web site for the raids
5)
Doing perfect record keeping of the DKP system
6) never ever
making a single looting mistake
7) keeping everyone calm and
entertained in ventrillo
Q u o t e:
Sorry, but Naxx raids don't happen due to sheer force of will. Blizzard has setup a raid instance progression line.
After reading your comment I see that point 1 has to be
amended.
1) form up 2 raids a week, to get the progression
through tier 2 to tier 3 rolling so that Naxxramas can become a
posibility for Silver Hand's horde.
This fiscal year, istead
of sometime in the next decade. I consider any of the following to be
tier 1 equivalent.
ZG set
MC set
pvp rank 10 set
There have got to be tons of horde milling around who already
have that stuff. So let's quit hatin on each other and get some BWL
runs going. Of course, I would like to remind everyone else that you
are still free to smear the Dust guild and trample it under the paw
of your wolf mounts even if we do get a raid community started.
You
can have the best of both worlds.